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Billy said:
In article 08-dnaFU_Ky5rS3VnZ2dnUVZ_u- , "Steve Peek" wrote: Would anyone like some cheese to go with the whine? I didn't hear a whine. I heard a gardener talking about gardening experiences. But when you came in, the cheese was loud and clear. I thought the weather was always safe to talk (or grumble) about.... -- Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:10:42 +0100, "R M. Watkin"
wrote: properly snipped and egregious top posting corrected greensand "Marie Dodge" wrote in message A mineral rich product people use in gardens. Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensand Penelope -- You have proven yourself to be the most malicious, classless person that I've encountered in years. - "pointed" |
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Sorry Pat, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Marie's constant
whine & her inability to accept the help she asked for. "Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message ... Billy said: In article 08-dnaFU_Ky5rS3VnZ2dnUVZ_u- , "Steve Peek" wrote: Would anyone like some cheese to go with the whine? I didn't hear a whine. I heard a gardener talking about gardening experiences. But when you came in, the cheese was loud and clear. I thought the weather was always safe to talk (or grumble) about.... -- Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:29:53 -0400, Pat Kiewicz wrote:
I thought the weather was always safe to talk (or grumble) about.... That was before the weather became political. |
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jellybean stonerfish wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:29:53 -0400, Pat Kiewicz wrote: I thought the weather was always safe to talk (or grumble) about.... That was before the weather became political. The politicals may try to control just about every thing but the best forecast for tomorrow remains today . Yea I know it is a cooler August but I read that the Salt H2o is being diluted and won‘t hold solar gain as well. So a cold winter this year. Mad Man told me this too. (Accuweather severe weather gay actuality it was a blog post.) http://www.whrc.org/resources/online...earth/scientif ic_evidence.htm Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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"R M. Watkin" wrote: Hi Marie, Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. Richard M. Watkin, And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind, and dumb. You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1009916.html |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "R M. Watkin" wrote: Hi Marie, Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. Richard M. Watkin, And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind, and dumb. You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft. Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate) when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap? If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden. A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also not going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling this out of a dark place) Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote: Billy wrote: In article , "R M. Watkin" wrote: Hi Marie, Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. Richard M. Watkin, And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind, and dumb. You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft. Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate) when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap? If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden. A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also not going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling this out of a dark place) I have been in error before, but I don't baffle gab. Now what lead you to your egregiously erroneous conclusion? Bob http://www.garden-ville.com/4429490_36600.htm ferrous sulfate --- FeSO4·7H2O (most common) at. wt. Fe = 55.845 S = 32 O = 16 SO4 = 96 H2O = 18 FeSO4·7H2O = 278 Fe / FeSO4·7H2O = .2 = 20% ---------------- Greensand 17% iron: 40 lb bag good for 700 sq. ft. 1 - 40 lb bag = 6.8 lb iron 6.8 lb iron / 700 sq. ft. = 0.00971429 lb / 1 sq. ft. 0.971429 lb / 100 sq. ft. You can do arithmetic, can't you Bob? -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1009916.html |
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"Marie Dodge" wrote
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote "Marie Dodge" wrote in message I can only shop at the stores that are here. There's a nursery that carries bone and blood meal and I think they still have Fish Emulsion. It would be several hundred dollars to purchase enough for our gardens. How much is it in the US? I bought a 2 litre container for about $12 about 3 years ago and I'm still using it up. I have about 3 acres of garden. I'm talking about *ALL* the organic stuff I would need for *ALL* of our the gardens. Did I misplace a decimal somewhere? I'm sure you said 900 square feet was the size of your garden. Are you from the school that if a little does good, more will do more good? You are way out of kilter with what such a modest garden would require. I'll also make note of something you said in another post. You said that you put leaves directly on the garden in the fall and till them in in the spring. I would suggest composting the leaves with grass clippings in a separate compost pile. High carbon directly on to the garden has a tendency to steal away the nitrogen. You want to satisfy compost's nitrogen need before it hits the garden. That will also allow beneficial microbes to develop and supply high levels of beneficial humic acid. Steve Young |
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"Penelope Periwinkle" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:10:42 +0100, "R M. Watkin" wrote: properly snipped and egregious top posting corrected greensand "Marie Dodge" wrote in message A mineral rich product people use in gardens. Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensand Penelope Hi Penelope, Thanks, Will go to wikipedia and see what I can find out. Richard M. Watkin, -- You have proven yourself to be the most malicious, classless person that I've encountered in years. - "pointed" |
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Hi, zxcvbob,
Thanks for that tip, I will make a not of it. Richard M. Watkin. "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... Billy wrote: In article , "R M. Watkin" wrote: Hi Marie, Thanks, but still not a lot wiser. Richard M. Watkin, And you never will be when talking to one who chooses to be deaf, blind, and dumb. You probably have seen the reference to greensand in Wikipedia, so let me describe another thought. One pound of iron (shavings would be best but use what you can get) in a plastic bucket, pour one can of cheap soft drink over it and wait 24 hr.. If iron remains, repeat soft drink addition. When iron is dissolved, it will cover 100 sq. ft. Why go to all that trouble (to make ferrous phosphate/carbonate/citrate) when ferrous sulphate (copperas) is so cheap? If you have iron filings, just sprinkle them around the garden. A pound of iron should cover a lot more than 100 ft^2, but you're also not going to dissolve it that easily. (Me thinks you are just pulling this out of a dark place) Bob |
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"Steve Peek" wrote in message m... Sorry Pat, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Marie's constant whine & her inability to accept the help she asked for. You mean her inability to pay for all the expensive supplements she was directed to purchase rather than simply answer the questions she asked. |
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"Steve Young" bowtieATbrightdslDOTnet wrote in message ... "Marie Dodge" wrote "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote "Marie Dodge" wrote in message I can only shop at the stores that are here. There's a nursery that carries bone and blood meal and I think they still have Fish Emulsion. It would be several hundred dollars to purchase enough for our gardens. How much is it in the US? I bought a 2 litre container for about $12 about 3 years ago and I'm still using it up. I have about 3 acres of garden. I'm talking about *ALL* the organic stuff I would need for *ALL* of our the gardens. Did I misplace a decimal somewhere? I'm sure you said 900 square feet was the size of your garden. The three gardens come to roughly 900 to 1000 sq. ft. combined. Are you from the school that if a little does good, more will do more good? No. I wasn't raised to be wasteful. You are way out of kilter with what such a modest garden would require. I'll also make note of something you said in another post. You said that you put leaves directly on the garden in the fall and till them in in the spring. I would suggest composting the leaves with grass clippings in a separate compost pile. High carbon directly on to the garden has a tendency to steal away the nitrogen. You want to satisfy compost's nitrogen need before it hits the garden. That will also allow beneficial microbes to develop and supply high levels of beneficial humic acid. You're 100% correct but we don't have enough grass clippings and no one to rake up those we do occasionally have. They're sparse, light and left to decay on the lawn. The lawn is some kind of Bermuda grass that is fine and needs little mowing. Steve Young |
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... (Me thinks you are just pulling this out of a dark place) Like a lot of other stuff you're going to read on these gardening groups. And if someone can't afford to buy and pay shipping costs on everything recommended, they're insulted, degraded, belittled and more. I can see why so many of the old posters from the 90s are no longer on these two groups. |
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