A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on Mother's
Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and does it
work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit trees
flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.



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"Joe" wrote in message
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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...e=gr&GRid=4674

Great gardener, great author, but he sure did use a lot of chemicals on his
crops.

Have you checked for any organic methods that may help your situation?

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...
A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I don't see the point in mixing soap with Sevin. And be careful with
household cleaners, many dishwashing liquids are detergents, not soaps.
The preemergent soap will do nothing to control Japanee beetles, the beetles
are in the ground, as grubs. And Sevin works well in killing the beetles
but there's no point in applying it before the beetles arrive. Don't get
all panicky when you first see the beetles eating holes in leaves, Sevin
works rapidly and those damaged leaves won't hurt the plant, it'll just look
unsightly for a week or two until new leaves grow. Japanse beetles love my
lindens and sycamores so I spray those with Sevin... a second application a
few days later does the job... the beetles emerge to feed and mate and are
entirely gone in ten days even if you do nothing. If you read the label
carefully and follow the directions exactly as stated then there is no
problem with using Sevin, do not mix the concentrate stronger than stated...
mix it a little weaker and it will still work just fine. I've tried the
Japanese beetle traps but those are just an exercise in futility... they
will lure only a tiny percentage of the beetle population... the local golf
courses near here use them because they'd rather remain open for business
and they don't want to deal with being sued, they have much too much area to
spray, and they know that in ten days the beetles will be gone anyway... the
traps when stratigically placed, and plenty are used, they will lure the
beetles from the tees and picnic areas... but they kill only a very small
percentage... so what if they kill thousands when there are millions and
millions.

On Apr 25, 11:30*am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. *Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? *If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.

I don't see the point in mixing soap with Sevin. *And be careful with
household cleaners, many dishwashing liquids are detergents, not soaps.
The preemergent soap will do nothing to control Japanee beetles, the beetles
are in the ground, as grubs. *And Sevin works well in killing the beetles
but there's no point in applying it before the beetles arrive. *Don't get
all panicky when you first see the beetles eating holes in leaves, Sevin
works rapidly and those damaged leaves won't hurt the plant, it'll just look
unsightly for a week or two until new leaves grow. *Japanse beetles love my
lindens and sycamores so I spray those with Sevin... a second application a
few days later does the job... the beetles emerge to feed and mate and are
entirely gone in ten days even if you do nothing. *If you read the label
carefully and follow the directions exactly as stated then there is no
problem with using Sevin, do not mix the concentrate stronger than stated....
mix it a little weaker and it will still work just fine. *I've tried the
Japanese beetle traps but those are just an exercise in futility... they
will lure only a tiny percentage of the beetle population... the local golf
courses near here use them because they'd rather remain open for business
and they don't want to deal with being sued, they have much too much area to
spray, and they know that in ten days the beetles will be gone anyway... the
traps when stratigically placed, and plenty are used, they will lure the
beetles from the tees and picnic areas... but they kill only a very small
percentage... so what if they kill thousands when there are millions and
millions.

don't be tempted to "double the strength to kill twice the number" if
you resort to using Sevin. a DROP of Dawn detergent works fine in the
diluted solution. makes it stick. don't use a lot, because it will
burn your plants. I, myself use the highly satisfying method of hand
hover, drop into jar of soapy water and drown, I walk to where
they're munching away, with a wide mouth quart mason or ball canning
jar (wide mouth mayonaise works well, just wash it out first) half
filled with soapy water. When you walk to them, walk quietly, hold
the jar underneath them (they tend to cluster pluck in great wads of
fornication sometimes....their sole purpose is to eat and reproduce as
quickly as possible) and place the jar underneath them, hover your
hand over them and they think they can fool you.......they drop down
and try to fly sideways. This captures about 80% of them and I have
the satisfaction of seeing them in the soapy water as I move from area
to area gathering more. when your jar is full, you will have to off
them, make more soapy water and do it again. I also discovered that in
spite of the fact that four o'clocks (mirabelis) are toxic to them,
they'll eat the leaves anyway, and it upsets their digestion and kills
them. So I gathered them anyway off the 4 o'clock plants as well and
offed them too. highly satisfactory!

if you don't have the patience or time to do this Zen like eradication
(it's much less harmful to the surrounding environment, and I don't
like using the now over used term GREEN...........it's not putting
harmful chemicals into the ground to wash down to add to the already
toxic solutions that are now drastically affecting our critters. I
still haven't found out if we have a bird or small munching animal
that loves to eat the beetles or the grub larval. which by the way,
you CAN spread Bt on your lawn to eliminate the larval grub of the
Jap. beetle. one of the things that brings the hordes of decending
skunk to nightly forages is an abundant amount of beetle grubs. they
feast on grubs and worms.

living in the inner town where I do, I've not encountered a skunk as
of yet, and don't see the usual possom's either, but suspect the local
gardeners here are the ones who like to spray without concerns to the
ground waters. I can't change the world, I can only maintain my
little piece of magic.

my opinions are strictly my own, but my methods are self proven by me
over the course of quite a long time.......

madgardener up in the green bowl, gardening in containers in upper
northeastern Tennessee, zone 7a, Sunset zone 36

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.

I don't see the point in mixing soap with Sevin. And be careful with
household cleaners, many dishwashing liquids are detergents, not soaps.
The preemergent soap will do nothing to control Japanee beetles, the
beetles
are in the ground, as grubs. And Sevin works well in killing the beetles
but there's no point in applying it before the beetles arrive. Don't get
all panicky when you first see the beetles eating holes in leaves, Sevin
works rapidly and those damaged leaves won't hurt the plant, it'll just
look
unsightly for a week or two until new leaves grow. Japanse beetles love my
lindens and sycamores so I spray those with Sevin... a second application
a
few days later does the job... the beetles emerge to feed and mate and are
entirely gone in ten days even if you do nothing. If you read the label
carefully and follow the directions exactly as stated then there is no
problem with using Sevin, do not mix the concentrate stronger than
stated...
mix it a little weaker and it will still work just fine. I've tried the
Japanese beetle traps but those are just an exercise in futility... they
will lure only a tiny percentage of the beetle population... the local
golf
courses near here use them because they'd rather remain open for business
and they don't want to deal with being sued, they have much too much area
to
spray, and they know that in ten days the beetles will be gone anyway...
the
traps when stratigically placed, and plenty are used, they will lure the
beetles from the tees and picnic areas... but they kill only a very small
percentage... so what if they kill thousands when there are millions and
millions.

don't be tempted to "double the strength to kill twice the number" if
you resort to using Sevin. a DROP of Dawn detergent works fine in the
diluted solution. makes it stick. don't use a lot, because it will
burn your plants. I, myself use the highly satisfying method of hand
hover, drop into jar of soapy water and drown, I walk to where
they're munching away, with a wide mouth quart mason or ball canning
jar (wide mouth mayonaise works well, just wash it out first) half
filled with soapy water. When you walk to them, walk quietly,

=============

Why do you have to walk quietly... if all I gotta do to get rid of beetles
is stomp about I'd save a lot of effort... I'm usually cussing the little
bastids when I have to drag my heavy sprayer and step ladder tree to tree in
the heat of summer and never yet saw a beetle fly off the back of the one
they're humping. hehe With all those details you added about different
kinds of jars etc. to your verbose trilogy I don't believe a word you
wrote... you've never seen a Japanese beetle up close and personal... you're
paraphrasing something you read.

============

hold
the jar underneath them (they tend to cluster pluck in great wads of
fornication sometimes....their sole purpose is to eat and reproduce as
quickly as possible) and place the jar underneath them, hover your
hand over them and they think they can fool you.......they drop down
and try to fly sideways. This captures about 80% of them and I have
the satisfaction of seeing them in the soapy water as I move from area
to area gathering more. when your jar is full, you will have to off
them, make more soapy water and do it again. I also discovered that in
spite of the fact that four o'clocks (mirabelis) are toxic to them,
they'll eat the leaves anyway, and it upsets their digestion and kills
them. So I gathered them anyway off the 4 o'clock plants as well and
offed them too. highly satisfactory!

if you don't have the patience or time to do this Zen like eradication
(it's much less harmful to the surrounding environment, and I don't
like using the now over used term GREEN...........it's not putting
harmful chemicals into the ground to wash down to add to the already
toxic solutions that are now drastically affecting our critters. I
still haven't found out if we have a bird or small munching animal
that loves to eat the beetles or the grub larval. which by the way,
you CAN spread Bt on your lawn to eliminate the larval grub of the
Jap. beetle. one of the things that brings the hordes of decending
skunk to nightly forages is an abundant amount of beetle grubs. they
feast on grubs and worms.

living in the inner town where I do, I've not encountered a skunk as
of yet, and don't see the usual possom's either, but suspect the local
gardeners here are the ones who like to spray without concerns to the
ground waters. I can't change the world, I can only maintain my
little piece of magic.

my opinions are strictly my own, but my methods are self proven by me
over the course of quite a long time.......

madgardener up in the green bowl, gardening in containers in upper
northeastern Tennessee, zone 7a, Sunset zone 36

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"Joe" wrote:

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on Mother's
Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and does it
work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit trees
flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.



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So if you kill all the local bees after they finish with your trees,
your good with that?

We have a name for people like that.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:13:45 -0500, "Joe" wrote:

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on Mother's
Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and does it
work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit trees
flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


Yes this will work. I would not think you need to reapply it unless
it rains. I hand remove the beetles using a wide mouth jar and 1/2"
of warm soapy water. When disturbed most beetles drop straight into
the jar and quickly drown. Seven may kill beneficial insects such as
ladybugs and spiders so use sparingly. Our J.beetle infestation lasts
about 2 weeks, then subsides. What others say, the milky spore
application did absolutely nothing, making it a waste of time and
money for my gardens.

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Milky Spore. Goggle it.

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Not all who wander are lost.
- J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973)

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"Joe" wrote:

"brooklyn1" wrote in message
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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of
the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture,
and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my
fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested
in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for
using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain
would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Does that work immediately? That's probably what he wants at the moment.

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"Joe" wrote:

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wrote in message
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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of
the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture,
and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my
fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested
in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for
using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain
would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Does that work immediately? That's probably what he wants at the moment.

Immediate gratification sounds childish to me. Why not think of
....forget it.

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Not all who wander are lost.
- J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973)

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and
Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care
of
the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying
on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this
mixture,
and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my
fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very
interested
in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking
them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8
fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible
to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending
several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back
at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for
using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain
would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's
BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Does that work immediately? That's probably what he wants at the moment.

Immediate gratification sounds childish to me. Why not think of
...forget it.

Bill


OK. But does it work immediately, or does it just mess with the next
generation of beetles, or something like that?

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...

A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner.
So the bees are your's to kill? I'd give you the benefit of the doubt
and gage you at about 1/128th of a brain.
Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Only 'cause he done it.
Thanks again.

"There´s an old saying in Tennessee, I know it´s in Texas, probably in
Tennessee, that says: fool me once, shame on.....shame on you, fool me,
you can´t get fooled again!".
- Shrub
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture, and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8 fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Milky Spore. Goggle it.
I did.

http://homeharvest.com/milkyspore.htm
Milky Spore Powder
Japanese Beetle
and Grub Control
St. Gabriel Laboratories' Milky Spore is a naturally occurring host
specific bacterium (Bacillus popillae-Dutky). This product is lethal to
a familiar destructive summer-time pest. It targets and discriminately
works to attack the white grubs of Japanese Beetles.



The adult beetle feeds on fruits, flowers, shrubs, garden plants and the
foliage of some field crops. At the immature beetle stage, the grub
enjoys feeding on the roots of grass and other vegetation to include
stems of plants.

Turf inoculation treatments / applications with MILKY SPORE puts in
place an on-guard protective blanket on your lawn.Considered the weakest
link in the chain and the most vulnerable point to introduce an
infection, resident spores in treated turf are swallowed by grubs during
their normal pattern of feeding; this starts the demise of healthy
grubs. Milky Spore disease then begins to cripple the grub, and within
the next 7-21 days will eventually die. As the grub decomposes, it
releases billions of new spores.

Milky Spore IS NOT harmful to beneficial insects, birds, bees, pets or
man. The product is approved and registered with EPA, Milky Spore will
not affect wells, ponds or streams.

The ideal way to combat area infestation is through organized community
efforts. Large areas treated with Milky Spore can result in long term
control.


Condolences to Kate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbaryl
Carbaryl is a cholinesterase inhibitor and is toxic to humans. It is
classified as a likely human carcinogen by the United States
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA.)[1] It kills various beneficial
insect and crustacean species along with intended pest victims, so care
must be taken when spraying where beneficial nontarget species are
present. Carbaryl is acutely toxic to HONEYBEES (HELLO!), destroying
colonies of bees foraging in an area where the chemical has been applied.

But it is made by Bayer, so how bad could it be? VERY.

So this idiot found himself in a position of under-think and now that he
is in a hurry, it is "collateral damage" time. That used to be a bad
phrase back in the day of Timothy McVeigh.

How very very bush of you.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

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On Apr 25, 11:30 am, "brooklyn1" wrote:
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A guy was telling me to use a mixture of Seven concentrate and Dawn
liquid
dish soap with water in my sprayer. He said this would take care of
the
problem if I sprayed every couple of days, and to start spraying on
Mother's Day. Do any of you know anything about using this mixture,
and
does it work? If I go ahead and try it I want to make sure that my
fruit
trees flowers are done being pollinated. I would be very interested
in
your
opinions. Thanks for your help.


I thank you for your replies. Several of you have suggested picking
them
off by hand. This would be impossible for me to do since I have 8
fruit
trees, 3 grape vines and a garden to boot. Even if it were possible
to
pick off I would fill up a 50 gallon barrel and would be spending
several
nights and days to do it and the next day the bugs would be right back
at
it. Some of the environmentalists wackcos out there criticize me for
using
chemicals. They don't seem to understand any person with half a brain
would
use insecticides in a responsibly manner. Oh I almost forgot it's
BUSH's
fault that I get these beetles. Why not blame it on him, they blame
everything else on him.
Thanks again.


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Milky Spore. Goggle it.
I did.

http://homeharvest.com/milkyspore.htm
Milky Spore Powder
Japanese Beetle
and Grub Control
St. Gabriel Laboratories' Milky Spore is a naturally occurring host
specific bacterium (Bacillus popillae-Dutky). This product is lethal to
a familiar destructive summer-time pest. It targets and discriminately
works to attack the white grubs of Japanese Beetles.



The adult beetle feeds on fruits, flowers, shrubs, garden plants and the
foliage of some field crops. At the immature beetle stage, the grub
enjoys feeding on the roots of grass and other vegetation to include
stems of plants.

Turf inoculation treatments / applications with MILKY SPORE puts in
place an on-guard protective blanket on your lawn.Considered the weakest
link in the chain and the most vulnerable point to introduce an
infection, resident spores in treated turf are swallowed by grubs during
their normal pattern of feeding; this starts the demise of healthy
grubs. Milky Spore disease then begins to cripple the grub, and within
the next 7-21 days will eventually die. As the grub decomposes, it
releases billions of new spores.

Milky Spore IS NOT harmful to beneficial insects, birds, bees, pets or
man. The product is approved and registered with EPA, Milky Spore will
not affect wells, ponds or streams.

The ideal way to combat area infestation is through organized community
efforts. Large areas treated with Milky Spore can result in long term
control.


Condolences to Kate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbaryl
Carbaryl is a cholinesterase inhibitor and is toxic to humans. It is
classified as a likely human carcinogen by the United States
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA.)[1] It kills various beneficial
insect and crustacean species along with intended pest victims, so care
must be taken when spraying where beneficial nontarget species are
present. Carbaryl is acutely toxic to HONEYBEES (HELLO!), destroying
colonies of bees foraging in an area where the chemical has been applied.

But it is made by Bayer, so how bad could it be? VERY.

So this idiot found himself in a position of under-think and now that he
is in a hurry, it is "collateral damage" time. That used to be a bad
phrase back in the day of Timothy McVeigh.

How very very bush of you.
--

- Billy


Why do you hate our troops, you non-patriot?