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Oh blast!
I've found the other pages now with the horse poop bits! In self defence I plead that I'm practicing for when those senior's moments become a daily occurance. OK stream of thought stuff now! One thing we've decided we need to do here Pete is to plant more big trees to get shade. The sodding sun is a major problem here and we've noticed that the only green bits in summer are under the exotic trees or the shade cloth or on the south side of something like a climber or a fence or the house etc. I know that idea won't work in a veg patch but a modification on that theme might work. Can you grow wattles for the green slash to use as a mulch/cover on top of the soil? The reason why I ask is because you seem to be getting some really goos soil building going but come summer all those poor goobies working for you in doing all the work in the soil will be baked to a cinder. On another strand of thought - do you have any Prickly Pear plants for the fruit? Or is that plant a problem there? Have you or anyone else tried the fruit? I'm thinking of giving it a go here when I can sneak a plant in past Himself. Fran |
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Farm1 wrote:
Oh blast! I've found the other pages now with the horse poop bits! In self defence I plead that I'm practicing for when those senior's moments become a daily occurance. OK stream of thought stuff now! One thing we've decided we need to do here Pete is to plant more big trees to get shade. The sodding sun is a major problem here and we've noticed that the only green bits in summer are under the exotic trees or the shade cloth or on the south side of something like a climber or a fence or the house etc. I know that idea won't work in a veg patch but a modification on that theme might work. Can you grow wattles for the green slash to use as a mulch/cover on top of the soil? The reason why I ask is because you seem to be getting some really goos soil building going but come summer all those poor goobies working for you in doing all the work in the soil will be baked to a cinder. On another strand of thought - do you have any Prickly Pear plants for the fruit? Or is that plant a problem there? Have you or anyone else tried the fruit? I'm thinking of giving it a go here when I can sneak a plant in past Himself. Fran So many questions ..... you're like a whirling dervish when ya get started. OK The stage the rows are at now is just having gone through a summer and still in dry conditions and mild 20 ish degree days ... I think today will be 24 with the chance of a shower yippee, of course I've been hand watering to break down the horse manure, the beds where the manure has broken down properly (although it's still happening) get watered only on a weekly basis, by one of those weeper type hoses left on for a couple of hours or so thats all, the rows that are "fresh" are still watered daily and quite thoroughly at times depending on the weather and if I know I'm not going to get back to them till maybe later the following "maybe" hot day... basically they as much water as they need to keep em in place against any strong winds and to allow the manure to break done or compost ... so it depends... could be different each day. Regarding the trees/shade and wind protection ...you're rushing me,:-) the last updates on the site gives a little insight into what will follow the veggies and I found late yesterday a Myoporum insulare (boobialla) that the birds have planted for me in one of the beds ( at least it looks like one ..its tiny yet) which couldnt have been planted in a better spot if I'd done it myself. because of the increased bird activity I'm getting a lot of seed left around the place but this is the first native and the first perennial plant thats popped up ... I'll get a pic of it today and try to explain what will go where as the whole thing progresses, I have been thinking of a shade house a bit lower down and alongside some of the salt bush ... but thats for later, you might be able to see in one of the pics ..the first one on page 2 I think ... there is a line of salt bush nearer the camera ... about a dozen 6 inch high plants.... they are planted into the orrible soil and are struggling, one has died they were originally going to be a buffer against the strong hot northerlies.... if we get some rain most of em will get going again and we plan to buy another tray (160 plants) this year for planting around some new fencing I'm doing in other parts. The camera angle on pic 1 page 2 is from the NNW so the small line of salt bush is to the north of the rows and the house is to the south of that pic ...or to the left just out of frame about 20 -30 metres. The top corner of that pic ..where the 3 tank circles are will be the nearest point to the house and alongside the path/driveway which is used daily to get to the horse yards, so that will have kitchen herbs and stuff that can be picked fairly easily without trudging through the mud. Along that fence line and further to the left there will be an archway also accessible from the "front yard", which will lead to a path at the end of those rows and the shadehouse will be on the other side of that path. ... I'll try to draw a plan but my scanner isn't working so it'll have to be done with one of the drawing progs ...paint or sumsuch, but it'll give ya some idea of what I eventually want to achieve ... making me divulge my secret plans early so ya can larf at me when it doesnt work eh? .... What were the other questions? ... oh yeah wattles,... maybe .. I only have one a golden wattle and its not doing too well in much better soil than I have in this patch, I will need some leguminous plants in there but where they will go will have to be planned ... in fact any large tree in the area of those beds will restrict the views we have now of the Adelaide hills and the horses both of which M loves... so very careful planning will be in order there if I'm to continue enjoying full health. Chooks will eventually be incorporated into the area too, and also a meat rabbit breeding house, but the rabbits are a long way down the track, the chooks will be introduced much earlier in the piece. ok now ya spoiled me secret plan I wanted ya to keep saying gosh and golly and wow and stuff.... now yas'll all say "ha that bit didn't work did it?" ....... I wont be planting any gums thats a definite, I need every bit of rain and although I know gums would suck up plenty of that saline water table I can't afford for em to steal me precious rainwater.... but there will definitely be trees both native and exotic fruiting. I actually have prickly pear plant just to the north of this patch and on a rise of about half a metre ... I've never had fruit off of it and it just sits there not dying but not growing either, I've eaten the fruit off other plants and it's not too bad...sort of sweet but not.. almost like a strawberry but yet not ... worth trying though I reckon they would make some sort of jam or even a savoury sauce like a cranberry sauce or used as a poultry glaze.... dunno but worth messing with. I've tasted most of everything we've got growing around the place and even tried smoking some of it :-) ...dont get me started ... the pigface plants have a fruit on em which you could eat if ya really wanted ...slightly salty and not unpleasant ... but not in the same league as a bar of choccy. and the ruby saltbush have a tiny berry that's not bad .. trouble is you'd need a shovel full for a real snack. Weve stolen Quandongs from next door but they have nearly always got a bug inside em by the time we get em, so apart from a quick bite and spit out we've not had any joy wiv em, I've tasted Quandong jam and thats really nice. ok have I answered everything? .... prolly not but I gotta go try to get a pic of this little Myoporum ... Pete |
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pete wrote: I wont be planting any gums thats a definite, I need every bit of rain and although I know gums would suck up plenty of that saline water table I can't afford for em to steal me precious rainwater.... but there will definitely be trees both native and exotic fruiting. Do you have a local melaleuca species you can use for shade? Not so aggro with the roots as gums might be, tend to be very salt/wind tolerant, and you can use the brush for your shade house later on. Though I think some of them tend to prevent anything else from growing around them (is it called allopathic?). -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "In Melbourne there is plenty of vigour and eagerness, but there is nothing worth being eager or vigorous about." Francis Adams, The Australians, 1893. |
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Chookie wrote:
In article , pete wrote: I wont be planting any gums thats a definite, I need every bit of rain and although I know gums would suck up plenty of that saline water table I can't afford for em to steal me precious rainwater.... but there will definitely be trees both native and exotic fruiting. Do you have a local melaleuca species you can use for shade? Not so aggro with the roots as gums might be, tend to be very salt/wind tolerant, and you can use the brush for your shade house later on. Though I think some of them tend to prevent anything else from growing around them (is it called allopathic?). Hiya Chookie The Melaleuca idea might be a winner, we have one which seems pretty common it may be M.halmaturorum ??? they seem pretty slow growing I "think" I have one of these outside my front window and its very hardy, doesnt get much water and yet looks very healthy, so you may be right Thanks This one doesen't actually have the "Brush" type of foliage like some of the finer ones .. here is a link to a pic of one http://www.deltaenvironmental.com.au...ra/mhalmat.htm Pete |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
from "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow contains these words: In self defence I plead that I'm practicing for when those senior's moments become a daily occurance. You're way behind, missis...if I could limit them to once a day I'd be a happy boony, er... Well some days do have a way of going pear shaped. I din't think it was senior moments but then........... On another strand of thought - do you have any Prickly Pear plants for the fruit? Or is that plant a problem there? Have you or anyone else tried the fruit? I'm thinking of giving it a go here when I can sneak a plant in past Himself. Haven't they become a noxious weed in some countries (possibly yours?) ? Yes but like a lot of plants it can be far more ramapant in some areas then others. Hereabouts I've seen it growing very tamely and well contained. In other places it is (or has been) simply rampant and one couldn't get a match between plants. Pampas grass is also a noxious weed in some places but here where it is rather colder than in the weed zones it is a (relatively) smallish and neat garden clump of about 6 ft high. |
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"pete" wrote in
OK The stage the rows are at now is just having gone through a summer and still in dry conditions and mild 20 ish degree days ... I think today will be 24 with the chance of a shower yippee, of course I've been hand watering to break down the horse manure, the beds where the manure has broken down properly (although it's still happening) get watered only on a weekly basis, by one of those weeper type hoses left on for a couple of hours or so thats all, the rows that are "fresh" are still watered daily and quite thoroughly at times depending on the weather and if I know I'm not going to get back to them till maybe later the following "maybe" hot day... basically they as much water as they need to keep em in place against any strong winds and to allow the manure to break done or compost ... so it depends... could be different each day. I had a really good experience this year with horse poop and leaves from exotic trees/weisteria spread on one of my veg beds which has rotten soil. I have found a fabulous non ending supply of poops already piled and all I have to do is shovel 'em into the back of my truck. I weeded and watered this veg bed, threw a load of poops on top and then topped that with a load of autumn leaves (I did this in about early summer as the leaves had just lain in a quiet corner doing nuttin all of winter - I knew summer here would be a stinker so didn't even try to do anything in that particular rotten bed). It got infrequent watering (prolly about once a month) and I've only recently scraped the leaves off and dug it over and planted it with all sorts of veg (bok choi, broccoli, English spinach, silverbeet, 2 types of lettuce and some space left over for succession plantings of more spinach which we love). It is full of worms and it's very ahrd to credit the difference in the quality of the soil. I think my experiences with this bed and some of the other observations we've made this summer is the reason why I've been wittering on about shade. I've written before about my water repellent soil and given how little watering this bed got (and I know it was water reppellent at some stages as I checked) and I've used horse poop before (but not in quite the same way) I'm wondering about he effects of shading the soil with both the poops and the leaves. The worms just got on with it and could operate in the dark. I dunno perhaps I'm just ranting, but I do believe that the dark and the mulch may have been more of a help than I could have ever thought. I was sooooooo ****ed of by this bed (and the rest of the garden in general) and soooooo ****ed off by the sort of summer we had (hot and dry, hot and dry and windy, hot and dry etc etc etc) that I far less than I normally would have. I had odd bursts of activity in between severe ****edoffedness attacks but I am now very impressed with this bed and it is probably better than any others that I have. Regarding the trees/shade and wind protection ...you're rushing me,:-) Sorry, but I have begun to think that it is ratehr important :-)) the last updates on the site gives a little insight into what will follow the veggies and I found late yesterday a Myoporum insulare (boobialla) that the birds have planted for me in one of the beds ( at least it looks like one ..its tiny yet) which couldnt have been planted in a better spot if I'd done it myself. because of the increased bird activity I'm getting a lot of seed left around the place but this is the first native and the first perennial plant thats popped up ... Congrats! Always a thrill I find when volunteer platns appear. ( snip of future plans description.) Chooks will eventually be incorporated into the area too, and also a meat rabbit breeding house, but the rabbits are a long way down the track, the chooks will be introduced much earlier in the piece. Waht about moving both of those plans up a bit? They could certainly help in your soil improvement plans given that both need to be fed but all output goes back to the soil. (And realistically they are both more productive than horses but don't tell your missus I said that :-)) ok now ya spoiled me secret plan I wanted ya to keep saying gosh and golly and wow and stuff.... now yas'll all say "ha that bit didn't work did it?" ....... Well I have lots of "didnt' work" bits round here, but if ya dont' do, ya dont' know do you? I actually have prickly pear plant just to the north of this patch and on a rise of about half a metre ... I've never had fruit off of it and it just sits there not dying but not growing either, I've eaten the fruit off other plants and it's not too bad...sort of sweet but not.. almost like a strawberry but yet not ... worth trying though I reckon they would make some sort of jam or even a savoury sauce like a cranberry sauce or used as a poultry glaze.... dunno but worth messing with. I've got a recipe for prickly pear jam somewhere................ Weve stolen Quandongs from next door but they have nearly always got a bug inside em by the time we get em, so apart from a quick bite and spit out we've not had any joy wiv em, I've tasted Quandong jam and thats really nice. I love quandongs. I think they are one of the most superb fruits - just wish I could get a plant or 10. I also love quinces which many people dont' like at all. ok have I answered everything? .... prolly not but I gotta go try to get a pic of this little Myoporum ... Great. |
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Farm1 wrote:
I had a really good experience this year with horse poop and leaves from exotic trees/weisteria spread on one of my veg beds which has rotten soil. I have found a fabulous non ending supply of poops already piled and all I have to do is shovel 'em into the back of my truck. I weeded and watered this veg bed, threw a load of poops on top and then topped that with a load of autumn leaves (I did this in about early summer as the leaves had just lain in a quiet corner doing nuttin all of winter - I knew summer here would be a stinker so didn't even try to do anything in that particular rotten bed). It got infrequent watering (prolly about once a month) and I've only recently scraped the leaves off and dug it over and planted it with all sorts of veg (bok choi, broccoli, English spinach, silverbeet, 2 types of lettuce and some space left over for succession plantings of more spinach which we love). It is full of worms and it's very ahrd to credit the difference in the quality of the soil. Thats hoss poop for ya. On Saturday's we have an ABC radio, gardening, phone in, talk back programme and the "experts" on there say horse manure is (Emphasis this bit loudly over the microphone) Absolutely no good for gardens .... Any poop is good poop in my book I think my experiences with this bed and some of the other observations we've made this summer is the reason why I've been wittering on about shade. I've written before about my water repellent soil and given how little watering this bed got (and I know it was water reppellent at some stages as I checked) and I've used horse poop before (but not in quite the same way) I'm wondering about he effects of shading the soil with both the poops and the leaves. The worms just got on with it and could operate in the dark. I dunno perhaps I'm just ranting, but I do believe that the dark and the mulch may have been more of a help than I could have ever thought. I was sooooooo ****ed of by this bed (and the rest of the garden in general) and soooooo ****ed off by the sort of summer we had (hot and dry, hot and dry and windy, hot and dry etc etc etc) that I far less than I normally would have. I had odd bursts of activity in between severe ****edoffedness attacks but I am now very impressed with this bed and it is probably better than any others that I have. Regarding the trees/shade and wind protection ...you're rushing me,:-) Sorry, but I have begun to think that it is ratehr important :-)) Me too but ya workin me to a frazzle ... Waht about moving both of those plans up a bit? They could certainly help in your soil improvement plans given that both need to be fed but all output goes back to the soil. (And realistically they are both more productive than horses but don't tell your missus I said that :-)) I will tell her if ya don't stop sounding like her :-) I need to give the chooks a run where they can do most good but have a movable (by 2 peeps preferably)chook protection abode that will let me give em a run to different areas. .... but I'll get a round tuit ...honest. I've got a recipe for prickly pear jam somewhere................ I would have been disappointed if you hadn't :-) I love quandongs. I think they are one of the most superb fruits - just wish I could get a plant or 10. Ya know they are supposed to be planted with another plant? not one of the ones on the block next door to us have another plant anywhere near em, or at least not near enough to suggest the seed had been planted alongside the roots of another plant which I thought was a bit strange .... maybe they killed the other plant off by some parasitic feeding off of it ???? Pete |
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"pete" wrote in message
On Saturday's we have an ABC radio, gardening, phone in, talk back programme and the "experts" on there say horse manure is (Emphasis this bit loudly over the microphone) Absolutely no good for gardens .... I suspect that in terms of fertility it isn't much use (chook or cow being better) but in terms of soil amendment for friability I think it's wonderful Any poop is good poop in my book Yup. Sorry, but I have begun to think that it is ratehr important :-)) Me too but ya workin me to a frazzle ... Sorry. I'll stop. I love quandongs. I think they are one of the most superb fruits - just wish I could get a plant or 10. Ya know they are supposed to be planted with another plant? Do you mean another quandong plant? But no, I didn't know that they needed to be planted near anything. |
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Farm1 wrote:
"pete" wrote in message On Saturday's we have an ABC radio, gardening, phone in, talk back programme and the "experts" on there say horse manure is (Emphasis this bit loudly over the microphone) Absolutely no good for gardens .... I suspect that in terms of fertility it isn't much use (chook or cow being better) but in terms of soil amendment for friability I think it's wonderful Well I'm finding that it works pretty well on soil that without it would grow nothing, though maybe that same soil would be fertile to a degree if it wasn't saline ... which sort of proves your statement above about friability and mine earlier about texture ...which no doubt if we tried hard enough we could prove are the same thing :-) .... I find chook poo is great as a Nitrogen fertiliser but is lacking in Phosphorous and Potassium whereas most of the others have a more rounded concentration of all 3, I find my brassica's go purple at plant out time using just horse manure, but as it breaks down and the soil improves they grow like wildfire, maybe the Nitrogen is unavailable early on in the process ? or maybe its just that brassica's need more Nitrogen than hoss poo can supply at that particular time, I'd always assumed it was the richness or freshness that was causing the purple colour and as ages things improve. I always thought hoss poo was lacking in Nitrogen but lately I've been thinking that it has enough for it to be considered a good all round fertiliser if its incorporated with enough soil to allow the growth of beneficial bacteria, fungi and insects to break it down sufficiently to "allow" it to release those nutrients for plants to use when they need it. I love quandongs. I think they are one of the most superb fruits - just wish I could get a plant or 10. Ya know they are supposed to be planted with another plant? Do you mean another quandong plant? But no, I didn't know that they needed to be planted near anything. They do well with lower growing stuff ... native grasses or low shrubs, they actually feed from the roots of the host plant. This link may be useful http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/s-acu.html The Quandongs near us are growing in pure Shellgrit ..old stuff that's been there probably thousands of years, it's broken down to basically nothing more than rough sand grain size and of course has excellent drainage but probably little else and our low rainfall doesn't help, though if we had higher rainfall maybe it would be worse for any nutrient would be leached through quicker. I think dry and very well drained is the key for established Quandongs ...though young plants must be kept moist to get em started. Ya see how edumacational this group is? Pete |
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pete wrote:
I always thought hoss poo was lacking in Nitrogen but lately I've been thinking that it has enough for it to be considered a good all round fertiliser if its incorporated with enough soil to allow the growth of beneficial bacteria, fungi and insects to break it down sufficiently to "allow" it to release those nutrients for plants to use when they need it. I was searching for Quandong stuff and got sidetracked and found this site which deals with mycorrhiza fungi. http://www.ffp.csiro.au/research/mycorrhiza/intro.html Which I found particularly interesting cos I reckon the fungi I am finding in the horse poo enhanced rows (I showed the fungi in one pic on my web site) are the reason things are growing. Also this site http://www.global-garden.com.au/burnley/may97dte.htm ....below are a couple of quotes form that site " Fungi are organisms consists of very fine filaments called hyphae that can spread for metres through the soil taking up nutrients. Plants in a mycorrhizal relationship have increased uptake of nitrogen, phosphorus, micronutrients and water due to the large surface area of the fungal hyphae. The result of this increased uptake is larger and healthier plants. Unlike plants, fungi do not contain chlorophyll and therefore need a source of energy. In return for providing nutrients to the plant the fungi receive sugars." and "Soil chemistry and structure Mycorrhiza can improve plant growth and reduce the need for large amounts of fertiliser but have other benefits as well. Mycorrhizal fungi can influence soil chemistry and structure. They produce an array of chemicals such as enzymes and organic acids that are secreted into the soil. These chemicals break down otherwise unavailable minerals that are then absorbed by the fungus and transferred to the plant. The structure of the soil is improved by the presence of mycorrhizal hyphae as they spread through the soil binding particles and reducing soil erosion. The presence of mycorrhiza and the production of the chemical residues help to form stable soil aggregates that bind organic matter and associated nutrients, improving soil structure and stability" I knew I was on the right path with the soil Structure thing but I had no idea of the proper names for what was happening. Hope you find it as interesting as I did ....if not ... if it's actually very boring..... it just proves what a nerd I am dunnit? Pete |
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"pete" wrote in message
Farm1 wrote: I suspect that in terms of fertility it isn't much use (chook or cow being better) but in terms of soil amendment for friability I think it's wonderful Well I'm finding that it works pretty well on soil that without it would grow nothing, though maybe that same soil would be fertile to a degree if it wasn't saline ... which sort of proves your statement above about friability and mine earlier about texture ...which no doubt if we tried hard enough we could prove are the same thing :-) .... Prolly :-)) I always thought hoss poo was lacking in Nitrogen but lately I've been thinking that it has enough for it to be considered a good all round fertiliser if its incorporated with enough soil to allow the growth of beneficial bacteria, fungi and insects to break it down sufficiently to "allow" it to release those nutrients for plants to use when they need it. I like to use it with the odd sprinkle of Dynamic Lifter added now and then. I also add the odd bit of cow manure when I can be bothered to go out with my wheelbarrow (whcih is when it isn't stinking hot) I've come to like dynamic Lifter a lot as it really seems to give the plants a bit of a kick along but I don't use much of it. I do tend to use a bit of liquid "Black jack" and the odd bit of seaweed emulsion but both of these tend to be as and when I remember them rather than as a regular thing. Do you mean another quandong plant? But no, I didn't know that they needed to be planted near anything. They do well with lower growing stuff ... native grasses or low shrubs, they actually feed from the roots of the host plant. This link may be useful http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/s-acu.html Most interesting - thanks for the link. I'd love to get some so may try with some fo the rare palant nurseries this winter. Ya see how edumacational this group is? I've always known that :-)) |
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"pete" wrote in message
I was searching for Quandong stuff and got sidetracked and found this site which deals with mycorrhiza fungi. I knew I was on the right path with the soil Structure thing but I had no idea of the proper names for what was happening. Most interesting. I do know however that mushroom fungi has a nasty effect on grass leaving the spot where the fungi is as bear as a badgers bum. I have huge fairy rings in our "lawn" and even when the rest of the grass is lush in spring, I can see where the fariy rings are (I'm not going to do anything about it though because I can have a meal of lovely fresh mushrooms just from wandering round the lawn) |
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Farm1 wrote:
"pete" wrote in message Farm1 wrote: I suspect that in terms of fertility it isn't much use (chook or cow being better) but in terms of soil amendment for friability I think it's wonderful Well I'm finding that it works pretty well on soil that without it would grow nothing, though maybe that same soil would be fertile to a degree if it wasn't saline ... which sort of proves your statement above about friability and mine earlier about texture ...which no doubt if we tried hard enough we could prove are the same thing :-) .... Prolly :-)) I always thought hoss poo was lacking in Nitrogen but lately I've been thinking that it has enough for it to be considered a good all round fertiliser if its incorporated with enough soil to allow the growth of beneficial bacteria, fungi and insects to break it down sufficiently to "allow" it to release those nutrients for plants to use when they need it. I like to use it with the odd sprinkle of Dynamic Lifter added now and then. I also add the odd bit of cow manure when I can be bothered to go out with my wheelbarrow (whcih is when it isn't stinking hot) I've come to like dynamic Lifter a lot as it really seems to give the plants a bit of a kick along but I don't use much of it. I do tend to use a bit of liquid "Black jack" and the odd bit of seaweed emulsion but both of these tend to be as and when I remember them rather than as a regular thing. Do you mean another quandong plant? But no, I didn't know that they needed to be planted near anything. They do well with lower growing stuff ... native grasses or low shrubs, they actually feed from the roots of the host plant. This link may be useful http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/s-acu.html Most interesting - thanks for the link. I'd love to get some so may try with some fo the rare palant nurseries this winter. Ya see how edumacational this group is? I've always known that :-)) Sorry I'm a bit incommunicado at the moment Fran ... I have a new grandson who is taking all my attention I can't wait to get him in the garden, his mum says I have to use one of them sling thingies ... papoose?? to carry him around while I'm planting stuff ...being the sensitive new age guy that I am, I just hope he doesn't mind the fag burns on his forehead .... Pete |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
Congratulations Grandpa :-) TY he's a little ripper ...pretty cute for a skinny kid. I can't wait to get him in the garden, his mum says I have to use one of them sling thingies ... papoose?? to carry him around while I'm planting stuff ...being the sensitive new age guy that I am, I just hope he doesn't mind the fag burns on his forehead .... More like his feet, I dimly recall from bending over wearing a baby in a slingthingy.... I wondered bout that ... I was thinkin maybe some bailing twine, or perhaps a bit of chain with dog clips to fasten us together I could cut a bit off the length I keep on the tractor for pulling star droppers, that should hold him. Of course later on he'll fit in the barrow, but at less than 2 kilo's at the moment ya could drop him in the potato trench and wonder where he's gorn. Pete |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
True story. My friend's feckless husband, alone in the kitchen of their topfloor flat, holding their newish baby, was taken by surprise by myself ringing on the downstairs bell. I followed him back up the stairs just in time to see him retrieve the baby from a coatpeg, where he'd suspended it by the romper straps :-( You say that like it's a bad thing :-) Less than 2 kilos? Put him inside your jumper, Pete..he's not cooked yet :-) 5 weeks undercooked, but Daughter has renal failure so things were getting pretty dangerous, he had to have the salad tongues to get him out and the cord was round his neck, so it didn't go very well as he was bungy jumping back in ... They had him in a pie warmer and under grow lights ... I reckon ya could start seedlings off pretty well in one of them .... He was 1.83 kilo's when born but he's just topped 1.925 kilos today... so he's getting to be a big lad ... a couple of weeks and he'll be home, he's already in with the big kids. He's eating well and looking great, he's got a big belly and nothing below it ... just like his grandad really :-) I'm looking forward to the burping and farting contests, I used to have em with his Mother but she grew out of em. Pete |
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