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"CT" wrote Martin wrote: I recall a ban on products being sold for gardens by Reading Sewage Works, because of the high heavy metals content. Ah, that'll be the Rock Festival causes that! Heh. Yes, sewage waste is often used as fertiliser in agricultural areas to my knowledge. They treat it and dry it and then call the result biosolids to make it sound more 'refained' There's probably info on local water supplier's websites. -- Sue |
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OK to bury cat droppings?
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote: "®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote: Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes? Cut out the middle man Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their own droppings in the garden. No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the vector -- (¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯) |
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"David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... "K" wrote in message ... Chris ] writes Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Well, (some) cats do ;-) The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk. Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and not particularly useful to your soil. As far as I am aware human faeces are used as fertiliser in this country after suitable treatment. Google gives http://orgprints.org/8477/1/njf4.pdf which claims 30-40% of sewage sludge is used as fertiliser in Nordic countries. Also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ser-crops.html. I am pretty sure they used to use it (and may still) around Suffolk. It is treated to destroy pathogens, though, so I wouldn't use cat crap as the main source of fertiliser for your slad crops :-) I remember a large dump of it on the old Ipswich Airport. It was an excellet source of tomato plants! Graham __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4791 (20100120) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:34:17 -0000, Spider wrote:
Lazy cat owners ... As a cat owner ... Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) ... You're all forgetting something. Cats don't have owners they have staff. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts" wrote: "®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote: Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes? Cut out the middle man Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their own droppings in the garden. No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the vector "inter the vector" is that code (big boy)? |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk... On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:34:17 -0000, Spider wrote: Lazy cat owners ... As a cat owner ... Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) ... You're all forgetting something. Cats don't have owners they have staff. -- Cheers Dave. :~) Well, I'm the bossiest staff any cat ever had, then. You should be in my house when there's a feline misdemeanour! I train my cats so they know when they've done something wrong but, just to be on the safe side, I explain it to them again! Spider |
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"Spider" wrote "Bob Hobden" wrote ((BIG SNIP)) Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats. Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks minimum before they leave their mother. Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that kittens who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family are less likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would make them less controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough if they've been reared responsibly. The pedigree cats have to be 12 weeks old before they are sold and I can't say ours ever had problems getting us retrained to their preferences. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... (Large amopunt snipped for brevity) Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is the fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited openly where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant where it can't easily be cleaned up. Spider The fox has shown you the way to solve your problem. Place something prominent like a large log or boulder for him to crap on. He is marking his territory by so doing, and you can then easily remove the mess and keep your plants safe from his antics. Bill |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
... "Spider" wrote "Bob Hobden" wrote ((BIG SNIP)) Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats. Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks minimum before they leave their mother. Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that kittens who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family are less likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would make them less controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough if they've been reared responsibly. The pedigree cats have to be 12 weeks old before they are sold and I can't say ours ever had problems getting us retrained to their preferences. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK :~)) Oh, I'm sure they're very happy with the arrangement! However, RG doesn't like cats but tolerates them provided they're trained not to jump up on tables, in the kitchen, on the furniture, up the stairs *anywhere*. Training an 8wk old cat is infinitely easier than training an 12wk old cat; I know, I've tried it. I had real trouble with my 12wk older cat until I tried 'growl speak' with her. Oh boy, did she toe the line then! :~) Spider |
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"Bill Grey" wrote in message
... "Spider" wrote in message ... (Large amopunt snipped for brevity) Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is the fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited openly where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant where it can't easily be cleaned up. Spider The fox has shown you the way to solve your problem. Place something prominent like a large log or boulder for him to crap on. He is marking his territory by so doing, and you can then easily remove the mess and keep your plants safe from his antics. Bill Thanks, Bill. It sounds like good behavioural training, doesn't it? Alas, I've got umpteen things around my garden which foxy might use, but s/he seems to prefer plants - especially new plants ... and, no, I'm not going to stop putting plants in the garden just to curtail (heh heh) foxy's inappropriate toiletting:~). Spider |
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts" wrote: "®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote: Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes? Cut out the middle man Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their own droppings in the garden. No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the vector Could you please interpret that into 'simple' english? -- (¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯) |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... K wrote: Chris ] writes Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Well, (some) cats do ;-) The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk. Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and not particularly useful to your soil. I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be more efficacious. We have buried six in our garden and there has been no noticable difference! -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. |
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:28:13 -0000, "alan.holmes"
wrote: "®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts" wrote: "®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote: Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes? Cut out the middle man Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their own droppings in the garden. No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the vector Could you please interpret that into 'simple' english? Take one cat Inter in turd QED My work here is done -- (¯`·. ®óñ© © ²°¹° .·´¯) |
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"alan.holmes" wrote in message
... "Broadback" wrote in message ... K wrote: Chris ] writes Is it OK to bury cat droppings? Well, (some) cats do ;-) The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk. Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and not particularly useful to your soil. I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be more efficacious. We have buried six in our garden and there has been no noticable difference! -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. We have buried four in our garden and .. likewise. If your own cats don't 'use' your garden, then an incoming cat *will*. At least you know you've wormed your own cats. Spider |
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