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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Derek Broughton" wrote in message ... Gareee© wrote: Doug Brown" wrote in message ... This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend. True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole thing apart a week from now. It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far as "order info" but with specific part availability). Building A Bio-Logical Filter for your Pond http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
Gareee© wrote:
Bulkhead fittings www.aquaticeco.com ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Derek Broughton" wrote:
Gareee© wrote: Doug Brown" wrote in message ... This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend. True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole thing apart a week from now. It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far as "order info" but with specific part availability). Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter" San Diego Joe 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons. Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo. |
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San Diego Joe wrote:
"Derek Broughton" wrote: Gareee© wrote: Doug Brown" wrote in message ... This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend. True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole thing apart a week from now. It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far as "order info" but with specific part availability). Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter" I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen some that did. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
... San Diego Joe wrote: "Derek Broughton" wrote: Gareee© wrote: Doug Brown" wrote in message ... This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend. True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole thing apart a week from now. It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far as "order info" but with specific part availability). Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter" I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen some that did. It's funny you mention that,. Derek.. the whole point of getting the group back was to have a resource for us to share information, but when someone has an honest problem, and asks for issues, were were a number of "google it yourself" replies. When I build my smaller filter last year, not once was a bulkhead mentioned in any reply, and I think I made 15 trips to either a lowe's walmart or home depot getting parts to assemble. I've already spent probably 4 hours in store this year on the new one, and a full day on assembly, trying to get it right with a larger filter this go around. I'm still not 100% sure the toilet flages using the wax gaskets will work over time, but no one offered a solution to adding them to a rubbermaid at all, so I just kind of made it up as I went along. I stil might have to actually make gaskets of some kind, and add a home made rigid gasket for the inner connectors on the rubbermaid. And while many people live "in the big city" where a lot of options for parts are available, many of us do NOT, and have few shopping options. I personally have a Lowe's and walmart nearby, a Home Depot 30 minutes highway away, and a few scattered farm supply stores, that look like they are still mired in the 70's. My only other resource is shopping on the web, but if you get the wrong parts, it's weeks before that can be turned around and rectified, plus then you have to add shipping costs. I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but held my tounge. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.) |
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Gareee© wrote:
I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but held my tounge. Seriously, I think much of it wasn't intended to be negative (I admit to having missed at least half the thread, though) but was more in the sense of not realizing that what was obvious to many responders wasn't obvious to you. I know when I initially responded about glues, I was completely unaware you were trying to put a fitting through the Rubbermaid and thought you were trying to fix a hole. It would be a wonderful thing if anybody _does_ know of any build-your-own filter sites with real part numbers if they'd post links. Even when the original builder is in a different country, if you have actual part numbers you can find out exactly what they are on the web, then you can find local suppliers that sell similar items. It eliminates a lot of guess work. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Derek Broughton" wrote in message ... Gareee© wrote: I was a bit dismayed by the negative replies to me assembly issues, but held my tounge. Seriously, I think much of it wasn't intended to be negative (I admit to having missed at least half the thread, though) There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as well as sources of info for bulkhead fittings. but was more in the sense of not realizing that what was obvious to many responders wasn't obvious to you. I know when I initially responded about glues, I was completely unaware you were trying to put a fitting through the Rubbermaid and thought you were trying to fix a hole. It would be a wonderful thing if anybody _does_ know of any build-your-own filter sites with real part numbers if they'd post links. Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed all of them. Even when the original builder is in a different country, if you have actual part numbers you can find out exactly what they are on the web, then you can find local suppliers that sell similar items. It eliminates a lot of guess work. |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"cat daddy" wrote in message
... There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as well as sources of info for bulkhead fittings. Yes, and from the replies, I never got any confirmation abotu any adhesive really working on rubbermaid containers Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed all of them. No, I did see them, and visited them,.. and they were posted about 2 weeks after the original thread was started. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.) |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
Garee wrote:
It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. I went through similar issues last year building the smaller filter, and not once was adding a bulkhead even mentioned. Actually, if you'd looked at mine, which is always at the bottom of my sig. I show the filter, the parts, where purchased, cost (at the time), and part numbers. Granted some of the info is old, but it will still get you there. Bulkheads are part of the list. Unfortunately it is somewhat different than what you are building. I'm sorry, I assumed (oops) that you'd seen my website at one time or another. I should know better. Especially after yesterday when a lady stopped by the booth I was manning asking about pond builder/fixers who actually showed up to work. Turned out after talking with her for a bit, she had a leak and hadn't even tried the method of turning off the water fall to see if it was there. She was already to rip it out, order a new liner, and hire someone to do. She'd already had someone out who didn't measurements and didn't get back to her.... and he didn't even make sure that's where the problem was. Click on Demon Pond Filter to see picture and the parts list. Click on "My Filter" to see it in ground. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"Gareee©" wrote: "Derek Broughton" wrote in message ... San Diego Joe wrote: "Derek Broughton" wrote: Gareee© wrote: Doug Brown" wrote in message ... This really isn't that tough, and google should be your friend. True, but as you just said, you got TONS of hits.. and after trying about 8 different ways to attach fitting to the rubbermaid, I don;t want to screw it up, and I don't want to deal with leaks and tearing the whole thing apart a week from now. It's not like there's a "build your own pond filter" website, with specs, part numbers and order info. There isn't? Too bad, I know there used to be some (OK, perhaps not so far as "order info" but with specific part availability). Funny. Try googling "build your own pond filter" I'm not sure what your point is. I don't see anything there that actually gives the sort of detail Gareee wants. I really do recall having seen some that did. It's funny you mention that,. Derek.. the whole point of getting the group back was to have a resource for us to share information, but when someone has an honest problem, and asks for issues, were were a number of "google it yourself" replies. Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good place to start is with Google. I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here, and was able to learn even more. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Kurt" wrote in message
... Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good place to start is with Google. I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here, and was able to learn even more. I use google here all the time,. but the best pond tips I've gotten are ALL from the old newsgroup. Plus it makes no sense to try various web tips, when people here have already tried them, and found issues with them. Otherwise why even bother to have the newsgroup? The whole point it to share tips, tricks, successes and failures so we all have better healthier ponds. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.) |
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"Gareee©" wrote: "Kurt" wrote in message ... Only that when people were inquiring about very general things, a good place to start is with Google. I found myself going to Google for a few of the topics brought up here, and was able to learn even more. I use google here all the time,. but the best pond tips I've gotten are ALL from the old newsgroup. Plus it makes no sense to try various web tips, when people here have already tried them, and found issues with them. Otherwise why even bother to have the newsgroup? The whole point it to share tips, tricks, successes and failures so we all have better healthier ponds. Of course, but in the instance where someone might be looking where to find a particular product, a Google search would have solved the query pretty quick. The Gorilla Glue thread, for example is a perfect example of what you are talking about - Personal experience on its effectiveness. For example: The topic of using a shop vac to clean my pond was worth it's weight in gold to me. Would have taken a while to find that solution in Google. The group rocks. (or flows) -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
"Gareee©" wrote in message ... "cat daddy" wrote in message ... There were many great replies, both for experiences with adhesives as well as sources of info for bulkhead fittings. Yes, and from the replies, I never got any confirmation abotu any adhesive really working on rubbermaid containers And, valuable information to pass along in the future. Nothing easily available will bond most Rubbermaid plastics. Specifically to the wheels on their lawn carts, Only 3M™ Scotch-Weld™ Structural Plastic Adhesive DP-8005 will do, and it's not available to the consumer. http://www.plasticsmag.com/ta.asp?aid=3080 So, you're back to bulkhead fittings and you should have enough info to build your own from parts at Lowes, order any of the choices online, from say the store in jan's link, or discover that the wax ring experiment works or doesn't work. Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed all of them. No, I did see them, and visited them,.. and they were posted about 2 weeks after the original thread was started. There was no indication of that from your posts, and Derek kept saying that no links were being posted, when they were. The failed adhesives discussion delayed getting to the heart of your problem. Good luck, anyway.... |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
cat daddy wrote:
Again, there were several great sites posted, both with DIY info, and commercial parts ordering sites, but both you and Garee apparently missed all of them. Acgtually, no. I just went back through the whole thread. There were lots of good references, once it was stated that he needed a bulkhead fitting, for where to find bulkhead fittings, but I still don't see anything like a web site detailing parts required for a home built filter. It would still be nice to have. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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Rubbermaid glue report: Forget Gorilla Glue
cat daddy wrote:
There was no indication of that from your posts, and Derek kept saying that no links were being posted, when they were. No, I didn't say anything like that. Garee pointed out that he hasn't seen any websites that list part numbers for building a filter. I said I've seen some, but I have no current links, and would really like to find such links. Nothing in this thread has changed that. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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