On 2009-05-13 20:25:38 +0100, bob said:

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/5.jpg

From the tiny images I've checked on the web the Lonicera suggestions
seem most likely. I don't remember seeing any flowers or berries
though, this year or last.

It also reminds me of cotoneaster.


Anyway, no problem. The plant is well behaved, inoffensive and
growing happily in the 100% shade afforded by my japanese anenome.

Perhaps you could take some photos of it when and if it does flower?
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

On May 13, 8:26*pm, bob wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:35:28 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-13 16:49:05 +0100, bob said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:03:51 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/1.jpg
Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon' highly invasive irradicate while you still
can

This really alarmed me so I've done as you suggested. It appears to
grow like lily of the valley on an array of connective spaghetti. *I
did my best to pull the network out but I know there must be quite a
bit left probably round roots of neighbouring shrubs etc.

I suppose it could re-appear but, if re-attacked, with a diminished
presence each spring?

Unless you really hate it, just keep it under control. *Watch that
Vinca, though....... *;-)

You know what? *I'm going to remove the vinca as well. *That's 2 pots
@ £7.99 down the drain. * A lesson learnt.

Actually I like Vinca. When I lived in Norfolk, I had it on a bank, I
liked it.

Judith

On 2009-05-13 19:55:48 +0100, "Angela" said:

First one looks like Lonicera pileata which is great for hedging, it's like
Box but much quicker growing. No idea of the second and the third is
definitely Solomon's Seal (just paid £10 for one!!)

I'm going to get over my faint at those prices and ask if anyone can
help me with a query about Solomon's Seal. I'm used to seeing it grow
here to around 2' to 3' in length but I clearly remember seeing it in a
Jersey garden with longer stems. I mean probably 4' minimum. I used
to cutit to use in great big pedestal arrangements in church and it was
a stunning sight. There seems to be some dispute/discussion as to
whether these are all the same plant. Can anyone here enlighten me as
to the differences, if there are any? Or is it all down to conditions
and habitat?
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--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

On May 13, 10:30*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-13 20:26:23 +0100, bob said:



On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:35:28 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-05-13 16:49:05 +0100, bob said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:03:51 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/1.jpg
Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon' highly invasive irradicate while you still
can

This really alarmed me so I've done as you suggested. It appears to
grow like lily of the valley on an array of connective spaghetti. *I
did my best to pull the network out but I know there must be quite a
bit left probably round roots of neighbouring shrubs etc.

I suppose it could re-appear but, if re-attacked, with a diminished
presence each spring?

Unless you really hate it, just keep it under control. *Watch that
Vinca, though....... *;-))

You know what? *I'm going to remove the vinca as well. *That's 2 pots
@ £7.99 down the drain. * A lesson learnt.

I don't think you need to remove it. *I'm a bit worried you're on a
slash and burn mission. *;-)) *Just keep an eye on it. *Someone/s
planted various types all over this garden and it's gone mad over very
many years but we do keep it hacked back and yank it out in handfuls. *
But here's we're talking of a large garden that's 150 years old and
we're not actually buried in the stuff yet! * I wouldn't be without it.
*Vinca flore plena and Vinca oxyloba, for example, are just lovely. *
Simply pull out any you don't want and keep it where you do want it. *
But I'm still gasping at nearly £8 for pots of Vinca - but that's
another matter! *At that price, treat it like a precious orchid and
cherish it - don't get shot of it, really.
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Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

Precious orchid? I had one, identified on this group for my birthday
in February, it's still going strong but I am anxious to keep it
going, shall I start another thread?

Judith

On 2009-05-13 22:41:37 +0100, Judith in France
said:

On May 13, 10:30*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-13 20:26:23 +0100, bob said:



On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:35:28 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-05-13 16:49:05 +0100, bob said:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:03:51 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/1.jpg
Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon' highly invasive irradicate while you
still
can

This really alarmed me so I've done as you suggested. It appears to
grow like lily of the valley on an array of connective spaghetti. *
I
did my best to pull the network out but I know there must be quite a
bit left probably round roots of neighbouring shrubs etc.

I suppose it could re-appear but, if re-attacked, with a diminished
presence each spring?

Unless you really hate it, just keep it under control. *Watch that
Vinca, though....... *;-))

You know what? *I'm going to remove the vinca as well. *That's 2 po
ts
@ £7.99 down the drain. * A lesson learnt.

I don't think you need to remove it. *I'm a bit worried you're on a
slash and burn mission. *;-)) *Just keep an eye on it. *Someone/s
planted various types all over this garden and it's gone mad over very
many years but we do keep it hacked back and yank it out in handfuls. *
But here's we're talking of a large garden that's 150 years old and
we're not actually buried in the stuff yet! * I wouldn't be without it.
*Vinca flore plena and Vinca oxyloba, for example, are just lovely. *
Simply pull out any you don't want and keep it where you do want it. *
But I'm still gasping at nearly £8 for pots of Vinca - but that's
another matter! *At that price, treat it like a precious orchid and
cherish it - don't get shot of it, really.
--
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

Precious orchid? I had one, identified on this group for my birthday
in February, it's still going strong but I am anxious to keep it
going, shall I start another thread?

Judith

Yes!!
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--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

On May 13, 8:23*pm, K wrote:
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes

In message ,
writes
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/5.jpg
Small leaf, very compact.

My first thought was privet, but your description doesn't agree. Maybe
privet honeysuckle (Lonicera pileata).

Yes, I think so. Others have suggested cotoneaster, but the leaves don't
look quite right (are Cotoneaster leaves opposite?).

It does flower, but the flowers are very small and greenish yellow on
the underside of the branches, so I can understand why one poster says
it doesn't flower.



http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/3.jpg
?
Looks like a willow-herb (Epilobium), but I'm not completely sure.

I don't like those extra tufts of 'leaves' in the leaf axils - not seen
that on an Epilobium. Sacha suggested Lysimachia (yellow loosestrife),
and it looks more like that, but I think it's probably Lythrum (purple
loosestrife). Without going outside to check, it's looking very much
like mine is at the moment.



--
Kay

I have had Cotoneaster but I don't rate it as one of my favourites.

Judith

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
| On 2009-05-13 19:55:48 +0100, "Angela" said:
|
| First one looks like Lonicera pileata which is great for hedging, it's
like
| Box but much quicker growing. No idea of the second and the third is
| definitely Solomon's Seal (just paid £10 for one!!)
|
| I'm going to get over my faint at those prices and ask if anyone can
| help me with a query about Solomon's Seal. I'm used to seeing it grow
| here to around 2' to 3' in length but I clearly remember seeing it in a
| Jersey garden with longer stems. I mean probably 4' minimum. I used
| to cutit to use in great big pedestal arrangements in church and it was
| a stunning sight. There seems to be some dispute/discussion as to
| whether these are all the same plant. Can anyone here enlighten me as
| to the differences, if there are any? Or is it all down to conditions
| and habitat?
| --
| --
| Sacha
| www.hillhousenursery.com
| Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
| South Devon
|

Mine is big, just went out and measured it - 89cm (35 inches). Label says
Height 1.2m. The label says it's Polygonatum x hybridum. I Googles and
there is another called Polygonatum commutatum which is 2-3ft, and
Polygonatum multiflorum at 3ft, so maybe there are different types

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:53:45 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:

I haven't found Vinca minor too bad.

I find their creeping stems choke out a lot of other things.

Pam in Bristol

On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:36:33 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-05-13 20:25:38 +0100, bob said:

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv14/pousser/5.jpg

From the tiny images I've checked on the web the Lonicera suggestions
seem most likely. I don't remember seeing any flowers or berries
though, this year or last.

It also reminds me of cotoneaster.


Anyway, no problem. The plant is well behaved, inoffensive and
growing happily in the 100% shade afforded by my japanese anenome.

Perhaps you could take some photos of it when and if it does flower?

Will do.

Judith in France wrote:
On May 13, 6:18 pm, "Ophelia" wrote:
Sacha wrote:
There's a tremendous colour range in Crocosmias so it's worth
Googling around a bit to see which colours you like best. This
person is obviously a great lover of the plant!
http://www.simplesite.com/CROCOSMIA/



Goodness me! Thank you!

I have a lot of C. Lucifer, I sent some to Pete and others on this
group, if you would like some, I have loads?

That is most kind, Judith I may take you up on that, but not for this
season!

Judith in France writes
I have had Cotoneaster but I don't rate it as one of my favourites.

There's several Cotoneaster species.

When you look at their characteristics - easy to grow, flowers in
spring in abundance, followed by equally abundant berries, it seems a
bit unfair not to like it. Maybe it's because it's all too easy for a
tiny C horizontalis to turn your entire garden into a monoculture?
--
Kay

On 2009-05-14 09:06:46 +0100, K said:

Judith in France writes
I have had Cotoneaster but I don't rate it as one of my favourites.

There's several Cotoneaster species.

When you look at their characteristics - easy to grow, flowers in
spring in abundance, followed by equally abundant berries, it seems a
bit unfair not to like it. Maybe it's because it's all too easy for a
tiny C horizontalis to turn your entire garden into a monoculture?

There's one growing on the roadside near Dartington Cider Press which
is grown as a weeping standard. It really is a little joy to see ini
autumn when it's covered in red berries. It's a lovely way to grow
them and I can't think why it's not done more often. I have no idea
which variety that one is, though.
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

On 2009-05-13 22:55:34 +0100, "Angela" said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
| On 2009-05-13 19:55:48 +0100, "Angela" said:
|
| First one looks like Lonicera pileata which is great for hedging, it's
like
| Box but much quicker growing. No idea of the second and the third is
| definitely Solomon's Seal (just paid £10 for one!!)
|
| I'm going to get over my faint at those prices and ask if anyone can
| help me with a query about Solomon's Seal. I'm used to seeing it grow
| here to around 2' to 3' in length but I clearly remember seeing it in a
| Jersey garden with longer stems. I mean probably 4' minimum. I used
| to cutit to use in great big pedestal arrangements in church and it was
| a stunning sight. There seems to be some dispute/discussion as to
| whether these are all the same plant. Can anyone here enlighten me as
| to the differences, if there are any? Or is it all down to conditions
| and habitat?
| --
| --
| Sacha
| www.hillhousenursery.com
| Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
| South Devon
|

Mine is big, just went out and measured it - 89cm (35 inches). Label says
Height 1.2m. The label says it's Polygonatum x hybridum. I Googles and
there is another called Polygonatum commutatum which is 2-3ft, and
Polygonatum multiflorum at 3ft, so maybe there are different types

Could be, though I've read elsewhere on Google that some claim that
they're all the same.
--
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

In message , Sacha
writes
On 2009-05-13 22:55:34 +0100, "Angela" said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
| On 2009-05-13 19:55:48 +0100, "Angela" said:
|
| First one looks like Lonicera pileata which is great for hedging, it's
like
| Box but much quicker growing. No idea of the second and the third is
| definitely Solomon's Seal (just paid £10 for one!!)
|
| I'm going to get over my faint at those prices and ask if anyone can
| help me with a query about Solomon's Seal. I'm used to seeing it grow
| here to around 2' to 3' in length but I clearly remember seeing it in a
| Jersey garden with longer stems. I mean probably 4' minimum. I used
| to cutit to use in great big pedestal arrangements in church and it was
| a stunning sight. There seems to be some dispute/discussion as to
| whether these are all the same plant. Can anyone here enlighten me as
| to the differences, if there are any? Or is it all down to conditions
| and habitat?
| --
| --
| Sacha
| www.hillhousenursery.com
| Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
| South Devon
|
Mine is big, just went out and measured it - 89cm (35 inches).
Label says
Height 1.2m. The label says it's Polygonatum x hybridum. I Googles and
there is another called Polygonatum commutatum which is 2-3ft, and
Polygonatum multiflorum at 3ft, so maybe there are different types

Could be, though I've read elsewhere on Google that some claim that
they're all the same.

FWIW, all three have articles in Wikipeda.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In message , K
writes
Judith in France writes
I have had Cotoneaster but I don't rate it as one of my favourites.

There's several Cotoneaster species.

More like several hundred Cotoneaster species. (Like several other
rosaceous genera, e.g. Rubus, Rosa, Sorbus, Crataegus, defining species
in Cotoneaster is a fraught task - Wikipedia says between 70 and 300
species.)

When you look at their characteristics - easy to grow, flowers in
spring in abundance, followed by equally abundant berries, it seems a
bit unfair not to like it. Maybe it's because it's all too easy for a
tiny C horizontalis to turn your entire garden into a monoculture?

--
Stewart Robert Hinsley