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"Rod & Betty Jo" wrote in message ... "Ann" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" expounded: When I bought my house the next door neighbors basically had a junkyard in their backyard. Dead washers, dryers, three rusting tin sheds, a couple junk trucks, all kinds of tires, etc. Oh well. I loved my house. They've moved on, new people live there now, they've cleaned it up, life goes on. It's amazing what you can live with when it really doesn't affect your basic life functions, like eating, drinking, etc. Of course I'd rather not look at junk, but I'm not paying their taxes or their mortgage. It's basically none of my business. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a I've had the same thing (more than once).....luckily they come and go and I built a fenceG.....Incidentally 5 years ago when I became very ill, life got just a little sidetracked as I nearly died with a very long recuperation.... I had no neighbors complaining about "my mess"......Rod When my neighbors were unable to care for their lawn, I did it for them without any discussion. That was a win-win situation. |
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"Bourne Identity" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:47:59 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined: How would you have felt if you needed to sell your house while the neighbors had a virtual junkyard? I don't mean WANT to sell, but NEED to sell. What if, due to the trashy neighbors, you found that there were few people interested in looking let alone making an offer? The offers you do get are low-balls. That is a situation where it does become your business because the junk reduces your property value or makes your house impossible to sell. People are always okay and tolerant till it effects them, or their hot button issue is raised. I live in a 31 home development. Homes in here go from 250 to 450. Out of respect for one another, we maintain the front of our homes. Mine, of course, is the most wild, but its got order in the chaos. However, when I learned one of our neighbors down the cul-de-sac was selling their home, I went out and trimmed out all the dead flowers from the Gaura lindheimerii, pulled out all the dead larkspur stalks, etc. I put down mulch to neaten things up. Rather civil. I assure you that if a huge mess was happening in our little neighborhood it would **** me off. My one neighbor has two trailers in his driveway, which is a four car driveway. One has a barrel BBQ pit thing, the other is for hauling stuff. His truck sticks out onto the sidewalk. People reported it and those things are now gone and we can walk down the street again. Yay. So, rest assured, people "say" it doesn't bother them, or it's none of their business, but when it effects them they squeal as loud as everyone else. I agree. If you notice that Ann, who claims that nothing is any of her business, started by lamenting the mess in her neighbor's yard. There is a difference between "it's none of my business" and having an opinion about something. I think you also hit on the essence of this problem. Maintaining the exterior of your home at approximately the same level as your neighbors is a simple courtesy. I don't expect people to recreate Longwood Gardens, but it doesn't cost anything to pick up your trash and to pull a few weeds. I think that people who park across the sidewalk, for example, are at best selfish, and at worst just giving everyone the finger. |
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"Natty Dread" wrote in message m... "Vox Humana" wrote in message . .. snippage As for moving next to you, it would be the last thing I would ever consider. I'm not worried about the homes of others. I just don't want inconsiderate slobs, people operating meth labs, or acid-rock band rehearsals in my neighborhood. I would be perfectly content if these things occurred in your neighborhood because even slobs and drug deals have to live somewhere. I suspect that you would be a hideous neighbor, bitching about everything bothered you. I would laugh if a pig farm moved next to you. Remember, you don't pay the mortgage or taxes so the stench would be none of your business. One man's stench is another's junk yard. Enjoy. Whoa, where do you get that she's a "hideous" neighbor"? "Even slobs and drug dealers have to live somewhere" -- WTF? Everything she's written here suggests exactly the opposite -- live and let live without getting in someone else's business. No offense, but from my perspective as someone just reading this thread, you have degenerated into histrionic flaming for no reason. Stick around and you will understand. Sister Theresa, she ain't. |
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"lgb" wrote in message ... In article , says... Would it bother you if your neighbor across the street parked an old car on his lawn, left it there to rust for 5 years, and for whatever reason, there was absolutely no way you could block the view using plants, fence, etc? And in your view this is equivalent to him chopping down his own tree? What an odd question. Let's put it this way: Some people think outside of themselves, and consider the consequences their actions may have on other people. Some people do not. |
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Found a very interesting webpage regarding various "Green Laws" enacted
around the US... http://www.greenlaws.lsu.edu/greenlaws.html And another note on my offending neighbor- since originally posting I have twice again seen trucks pull up and someone snap a photo of the remaining stump. Hmmmm... -- Toni South Florida USA Zone 10b http://ww.cearbhaill.com |
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William Wagner writes:
No rusting junk about here just many bored barking dogs. worse than junk in my opinion... you can look away/go inside to get away from junk... barking will penetrate the walls. (ok.. so you can use earplugs... but that's more excessive i think) sigh.. -- be safe. flip Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch? Remove origin of the word spam from address to reply (leave "+") |
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Don't you have an animal control resource, and local ordnances which address
barking dogs? "Philip Lewis" wrote in message ... William Wagner writes: No rusting junk about here just many bored barking dogs. worse than junk in my opinion... you can look away/go inside to get away from junk... barking will penetrate the walls. (ok.. so you can use earplugs... but that's more excessive i think) sigh.. -- be safe. flip Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch? Remove origin of the word spam from address to reply (leave "+") |
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"Philip Lewis" wrote:
William Wagner writes: No rusting junk about here just many bored barking dogs. worse than junk in my opinion... you can look away/go inside to get "Doug Kanter" writes: Don't you have an animal control resource, and local ordnances which address barking dogs? I imagine that there are... but i'd want to take the step of talking to the neighbor first--- and for me, that would mean keeping an infraction diary so i can point out specific instances so i can answer questions of "when?!" --- which comes down to too much work at this level of annoyance. I was mostly commiserating with Mr Wagner. All in all, I think It bothers my wife more than it does me... but even I was upset over the the various 3-6 am extended ( 10 minutes) barking sessions. (the neighbor works odd hours). Usually by morning I have better things to do than track the neighbor down. It hasn't been quite as bad lately (perhaps because it's been winter, and all the windows were shut making it less noticeable.) She also lost a dog within the last year or so, and though that dog didn't start the barking usually, the dogs fed off each other's barking and the sessions would last longer. For some reason, sound pollution seems to me to be more egregious an offense than clutter and/or weeds... I *have* suggested to her that 7:30am might be a little early for yardwork involving power lawn tools, though.... mostly because i was leaving for work, and I knew my wife was still sleeping. I try to do most of my gardening with hand tools. Anyone have good push mower tune up tips? (partially rhetorical question, the mower is in reasonable shape now... and i havn't done my part by googling first.... just trying to bring the topic back to gardens. There is just something soothing about the reel mower whirr. I've considered starting a company to do "quiet" gardening using hand or silent electric tools. wondering if it would go over, or be prohibitively expensive. -- be safe. flip Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch? Remove origin of the word spam from address to reply (leave "+") |
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"Toni" wrote in message ... Found a very interesting webpage regarding various "Green Laws" enacted around the US... http://www.greenlaws.lsu.edu/greenlaws.html And another note on my offending neighbor- since originally posting I have twice again seen trucks pull up and someone snap a photo of the remaining stump. Hmmmm... What type of trucks? May have been private contractors there to make a bid on removing the tree trunk. |
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"Vox Humana" expounded:
I agree. If you notice that Ann, who claims that nothing is any of her business, started by lamenting the mess in her neighbor's yard. There is a difference between "it's none of my business" and having an opi I guess reading comprehension isn't your forte. I wasn't lamenting a thing, I stated facts, and also told you I still bought the house. But do continue misconstruing, it's getting pretty amusing. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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"Natty Dread" expounded:
Whoa, where do you get that she's a "hideous" neighbor"? "Even slobs and drug dealers have to live somewhere" -- WTF? Everything she's written here suggests exactly the opposite -- live and let live without getting in someone else's business. No offense, but from my perspective as someone just reading this thread, you have degenerated into histrionic flaming for no reason. She's reading into me what lives in her. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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"Doug Kanter" expounded:
Well....sounds like it's all a matter of individual opinion, then. Yes, it is. My opinion is I mind my own business (I'm not telling you to mind yours, I'm just saying what I feel, and how I live). I've said throughout this thread I wouldn't live in a managed area, that seems to drive some people to hysterics. So what? So I don't want to live like that. Others do. Whatever. This all started over cutting down trees. I live in a semi-rural area, there just aren't bylaws against cutting down trees. Maybe someday there will be, when more and more people build up the area. I'll be gone to Maine by then. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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"Ann" wrote in message ... "Vox Humana" expounded: I agree. If you notice that Ann, who claims that nothing is any of her business, started by lamenting the mess in her neighbor's yard. There is a difference between "it's none of my business" and having an opi I guess reading comprehension isn't your forte. I wasn't lamenting a thing, I stated facts, and also told you I still bought the house. But do continue misconstruing, it's getting pretty amusing. In case you missed this recently I will repost as I see no reason to reinvent the wheel. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...59adc334?hl=en "Oh my god, I haven't been on here for years. I scan down, open a post and its Ann from Massachusetts. It must be 4 or 5 years since I stopped by here and you are still at it, being a nasty, know it all bitch. I would have thought a house would have fallen on you by now. Must be a very sad life you have lead." I would just add that for someone who claims that nothing is any of her business, you sure have a way of getting into everyone's business. Oh, and look out for falling houses, it's tornado season. |
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"Ann" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" expounded: Well....sounds like it's all a matter of individual opinion, then. Yes, it is. My opinion is I mind my own business (I'm not telling you to mind yours, I'm just saying what I feel, and how I live). I've said throughout this thread I wouldn't live in a managed area, that seems to drive some people to hysterics. So what? So I don't want to live like that. Others do. Whatever. Well, I think it's clear that if someone wants to cut down a tree because they want more sun, or they just hate raking, that's one thing. But, cutting one down because you THINK it's diseased, when in fact it's totally normal and healthy - that's just plain stupid. Since most people want to see some indication of expertise before they accept advise, I think it's a good idea for townships to offer that advise. What if the permit is free, but requires a 5 minute look at the tree and a 5 minute talk with the property owner, just to be sure they're not cutting it down for stupid reasons? Would that be OK with you? |
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