On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:39:11 +0000, Gordon H
wrote:

In message , Janet Tweedy
writes
In article , Gordon H
writes

Like other demon users I await a resolution of their 'problem', but
time is running out; as a HomeOffice8000 user I am not getting my full
moneys' worth at present. 8-(


I wrote and asked when we were going to get the groups back and got a
very snotty reply.

8-(

This situation seems to have happened as they were taken over by Cable &
Wireless. The original Demon team were the best ISP, no doubt about
that, but I sense that the techies may have departed the ship as Thus
and now C&W took charge. Either that or maybe the spare hardware
capacity which Demon used to have has been dispensed with to save
money...

Demon still has very capable technical support but it is sometimes
difficult to get through to them. In over 15 years I have only needed
Demon technical support three times. The first call was answered by
local support and sorted out promptly. On the other two occasions the
calls went to support in India and they were also sorted out quickly.

Steve

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The message
from Judith in France contains these words:

Have you got wind in Dutchland?

Did you mean that personally, or generally?

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from rjbl contains these words:

There does seem to have been an issue with Demon picking up its feeds
from USENET for about a month; but it does look as if it is sorted now.
I don't think it, necessarily a sign that Demon has gone to the dogs -
quite a lot of the Usenet web services have been reporting message
replication issues over the last few weeks - could be a sudden increase
in global Usenet traffic??? The use of Usenet for political campaigning
in the US Election springs to mind as a possibility.

NAFAICT - Zetnet doesn't seem to have had any problems with newsfeeds.

Usenet in fact, has contracted significantly from what it was only two
or three years ago.

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I started out with demon, and the world of Usenet, in 1994,but moved on
fairly quickly.

I started out with Zetnet about six months after they began - 13? 14?
15? years ago, and I'm still with them. Unlike you, I liked the
DOS-based SMTP, and while it is now in the Windows environment, it is
just as good as ever it was - plus you can use any other news/mail
reader you want, have the SMTP mailbox, POP3, and (I believe) a webmail
account too. The last is probably due to the number of failed ISPs
Zetnet has caught as they fell.

My reason at the time was that newer ISP's were providing all in one
windows
installation, and pop3 mail....sounds a bit silly now but demon tried to
convince users that SMTP in their dos based DIS package was the way to go
and to ignore all that fancy windows stuff.

Well, it is.

It's far superior to POP3 or webmail, and much more secure.

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On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:41:33 GMT, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:

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from rjbl contains these words:

There does seem to have been an issue with Demon picking up its feeds
from USENET for about a month; but it does look as if it is sorted now.
I don't think it, necessarily a sign that Demon has gone to the dogs -
quite a lot of the Usenet web services have been reporting message
replication issues over the last few weeks - could be a sudden increase
in global Usenet traffic??? The use of Usenet for political campaigning
in the US Election springs to mind as a possibility.

NAFAICT - Zetnet doesn't seem to have had any problems with newsfeeds.

Usenet in fact, has contracted significantly from what it was only two
or three years ago.

The number of new groups being added is still running quite high but
most of them are rubbish.

The number of Usenet bytes is much higher than a few years ago due to
all the binary groups.

Usenet text is drowning in binaries and spam. It a great pity for
those of us who can't spare the time to surf the web!

Steve

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On Nov 4, 1:33 pm, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:
The message
from Judith in France contains these words:

Have you got wind in Dutchland?

Did you mean that personally, or generally?

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Rusty, one of these days, when Sacha is back, I am going to have a
word with her and we might both come and sort the pair of you rascals
out!!!

Judith

In message , rjbl
writes
David Rance wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 Janet Tweedy wrote:

We got Demon for it's reliability but if they are going to chuck
newsgroups because they take up too much bandwidth then we will also
move.

I spent some time today looking at other ISPs. But quite a few others
that used to have a good name seem also to be going the same way as
Demon. Nildram used to have a good name but the latest feedback on them
suggests otherwise. The best I've found is Zen.

Well, I've always been cautious and won't jump immediately, but I've now
got a strategy if the worst comes to the worst.

David

P.S. On my frequent trips to France I'm still able to get newsgroups
from Wanadoo/Orange - and it's cheaper than Demon. the only thing I
don't have over there is a static IP.

There does seem to have been an issue with Demon picking up its feeds
from USENET for about a month; but it does look as if it is sorted now.
I don't think it, necessarily a sign that Demon has gone to the dogs -
quite a lot of the Usenet web services have been reporting message
replication issues over the last few weeks - could be a sudden increase
in global Usenet traffic??? The use of Usenet for political campaigning
in the US Election springs to mind as a possibility.

rjbl
More like two months - and no it ain't sorted.
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Janet Tweedy wrote:

I wrote and asked when we were going to get the groups back and got a
very snotty reply.

*You* were lucky. I wrote to them too; I got *no* reply.

I've been with Demon for more than 14 years. I'm also looking to
change now. It's absolutely unacceptable service.

"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
k...

Well, it is.

It's far superior to POP3 or webmail, and much more secure.

Ok,lets do a straw poll

Hands up who uses DOS...

OK, and now Windows....

OK that concludes it...

Seriously, DEMON had a great unfiltered news server back then, sad its gone.
I can say that I am a totally satisfied individual.net customer, great news
server, fullcontent, reliable and cheap

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from Stephen Wolstenholme contains these words:
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:41:33 GMT, Rusty_Hinge
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Hmmm. I think you are/used to be a Hi-Fi man? Know the Emporium?

Usenet in fact, has contracted significantly from what it was only two
or three years ago.

The number of new groups being added is still running quite high but
most of them are rubbish.

Maybe, but the number of text posts is drastically diminished.

The number of Usenet bytes is much higher than a few years ago due to
all the binary groups.

Yup. Even Zetnet carries a few - but only if requested.

Usenet text is drowning in binaries and spam. It a great pity for
those of us who can't spare the time to surf the web!

I don't see the binaries, and seldom see the spam now we have an egg
sealant eejit-flitter.

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The message

from Judith in France contains these words:

Rusty, one of these days, when Sacha is back, I am going to have a
word with her and we might both come and sort the pair of you rascals
out!!!

Oooooooh!

Promises-promises!

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from Martin contains these words:

No wind here, just cold thick fog.

IRTA 'cold thick frog.'

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The message
from "R.A.Omond" contains these words:
Janet Tweedy wrote:

I wrote and asked when we were going to get the groups back and got a
very snotty reply.

*You* were lucky. I wrote to them too; I got *no* reply.

I've been with Demon for more than 14 years. I'm also looking to
change now. It's absolutely unacceptable service.

Well, I really can't fault Zetnet's service.

OK, it's not free, but worth every penny it costs.

Ask for a newsgroup to be added to the feed (which I have done) and it's
generally there on the next day at the latest.

You can talk to staff and directors in the (closed) newsgroups, and at
least one of them escapes into Greater Usenet...

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In article , BOFH wrote:
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
. uk...

Well, it is.

It's far superior to POP3 or webmail, and much more secure.

Now, POP 2 was superior to almost all the modern rubbish.

Ok,lets do a straw poll

Hands up who uses DOS...

I never actually used any of them, as they were obsolete by the time
I started using mainframe computers, in 1969.

OK, and now Windows....

I use X Windows every day, and it's a pain in the arse.

OK that concludes it...

Not really. There's lots more to go yet ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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from "BOFH" contains these words:
"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
k...

Well, it is.

It's far superior to POP3 or webmail, and much more secure.

Ok,lets do a straw poll

Hands up who uses DOS...

OK, and now Windows....

OK that concludes it...

Seriously, DEMON had a great unfiltered news server back then, sad its gone.
I can say that I am a totally satisfied individual.net customer, great news
server, fullcontent, reliable and cheap

Ah, you're a pollster, don't tell me.

Try actually *READING* the post before you try to live up to your
posting alias.

ZIMACS only works (now) in a 32-bit environment, which is difficult to
provide in DOS

But is available in a lot better OSs than Windows...

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