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In message , Sacha
writes We have, also, a modern culture that requires the adults to stop speaking when mini-Fred opens his mouth. In my day - (harumph) - it was "hush, the adults are speaking". I say that now to my grandchildren if they interrupt and their parents say it too. But some young parents have looked at me as if I came from Planet Monster. I well remember those days. When queuing in a shop, children were frequently ignored, and adults served out of turn. If you were caught talking in class or couldn't find your place when it was your turn to read aloud you were sent to wait outside the headmaster's door to receive the stinging cane. We were all scared of the barber, for some inexplicable reason. I find it a joy when I interact with a responsive child in a public place, you can soon spot the suppressed ones who shrink away. We live in more enlightened times now, thank goodness.. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , chris French
writes In message , Gordon H writes On more that one occasion where car theft has occurred within sight of my property I have been asked "Did you get anything on your cameras"? My answer is sorry, - they cover only my own property, to have a camera covering public space you require authorisation. Not correct (assuming they are on a domestic property) http://www.ico.gov.uk/Global/faqs/da...public.aspx#f8 9CC45B4-580B-4FCD-98A2-278DE2D7446C I stand corrected, but I have seen TV clips of a number of cases where trouble has resulted from the use of cameras which overlook neighbour's property, so mine are carefully aligned. There are other potential dangers from using CCTV cameras, which I won't detail here. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Bill Grey
writes One only got the cane if one misbehaved, was cheeky or rude - tendencies which needed to be corrected. Not true, I'm afraid. My mate and I were sent for the cane (a narrow springy rod) administered with relish by headmaster Hiles because we had lost track of where we were up to in a read-aloud session. One of my mates fared even worse. He had constructed a wooden teapot stand in a woodwork lesson, and had done such a good job that he was told to go and show it to Mr Hiles. He knocked on the door, and before he had time to say anything, Hiles had grabbed the cane and told him to hold out his hand! It took a desperate plea before he was allowed to tell the real reason he had been sent to see the Head! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , 'Mike'
writes I went to a Private School and the Slipper was very effective. I went to a Grammar school and the teachers managed without the cane, though one teacher did always have a plimsole on the blackboard shelf, which he nave used. But here is an interesting thought, to what degree did a Private education 'implant' a different, more adult/responsible 'mind' in the body? We have quite a 'sprinkling' of privately educated people in our family and the thought of any of them running amok as the looters and crowds have been doing shocks us. The resulting qualifications and professions speaks volumes. Mike I'm sure that the thrashings which out senior politicians received at their various[1] educational establishments helped to imbue them with a strong sense of superiority and an intense desire to get their own back by bashing the workers. Of course there is always the danger of them acquiring a taste for domination or self-abasement, which could be embarrassing if it came to light at the peak of their careers. What was the name of that politician who was found deceased with an orange in his mouth and wearing stockings and suspenders? Some kind of eroticism involving partial asphyxiation, I assume? [1] Not actually very varied - most are from the same stable... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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On 11/08/2011 16:25, Gordon H wrote:
In message , Sacha writes We have, also, a modern culture that requires the adults to stop speaking when mini-Fred opens his mouth. In my day - (harumph) - it was "hush, the adults are speaking". I say that now to my grandchildren if they interrupt and their parents say it too. But some young parents have looked at me as if I came from Planet Monster. I well remember those days. When queuing in a shop, children were frequently ignored, and adults served out of turn. If you were caught talking in class or couldn't find your place when it was your turn to read aloud you were sent to wait outside the headmaster's door to receive the stinging cane. We were all scared of the barber, for some inexplicable reason. I find it a joy when I interact with a responsive child in a public place, you can soon spot the suppressed ones who shrink away. We live in more enlightened times now, thank goodness.. Fortunately most of the yobs round here are handicapped by their trousers which require one hand to hold them up |
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In message , Baz
writes Baz wrote in : To add to the list of crimes, and there are so many, Glastonbury festival last year he posed as an official and charged campers for pitching, sold drugs and was a general fraudster. In Dover he sold him and his familly as V.A.T officers or something and stole vehicles, tobacco and booze AFTER the customs and exise had validated the rightful owners right to it. DNA is a powerful thing and the whole lot of them have left it for the forensic people to have a field day. Finger prints have proved to be the first line of evidence, the matching of DNA(a long wait) and finger prints (immediate) will eventually prove just what this lot have done. I hope it wont be long before they all of them are behind bars. I thought about giving his name out, here, but there must be many with an identical name and respected, so that would not be ok. The police will not let me have access to date of birth etc. in case of reprisals. As If. When, or if, the scroat is found guilty this is when we will see just how much we can take of this crass regard of protection from offenders. Baz I'm pleased to hear that he has been caught, and hope that it will be some consolation to you to be aware of that. I would want to be in court when he appears, and I guess you probably will. It demonstrates that the best deterrent to crime is the certainty of detection, and one hopes that he receives an appropriate sentence. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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and there are about 3000 men who felt that National Service did them some
good and enjoy the camaraderie of http://www.nsrafa.org/%5CDefault.aspx some 50 years later Are you a member? Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... "Gordon H" wrote in message ... In message , Baz writes And also why have a knob head serving with our patriotic volunteers, true they are paid accordingly, but why have someone/s with you who is an outcast, and you are defending your country. The last thing you need is a convict with you. Baz I did two years National Service, and can assure you that those of us whose careers were interrupted by N.S. were not the "knob heads". Most of the regulars of our age and experience were lads who had become RAF apprentices at an early age, and the impression I got was that quite a few were getting away from bad homes, or were unable to get decent jobs or training elsewhere. Some Senior NCOs were the tops, especially those on the technical side, but our Admin Flight Sergeant was a Neanderthal gorilla of a man. When 6 new beds were allocated to our billet, we pointed out that all of the beds were perfectly serviceable, to which he replied "Bring 'em out here"! He then proceeded to jump up and down on them on the billet steps until they were bent, and had to be scrapped. Knob head? For sure! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Kay
writes On 09/08/2011 17:34, in article , "Sacha" wrote: The people in these riots and the man who attacked your property aren't poor, they're not in real need of food or shelter which IS poverty, they're just destructive or jealous or lazy or all those things. There is the concept of relative poverty - being unable to share in the lifestyle that all around you take for granted, or seeing any means to do so. That is one of the points which a reformed ex-criminal made very articulately on Newsnight recently. But there's no excuse for looting and violence. He also made that statement, he was not condoning the looting, merely explaining it. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Baz
writes I saw a senior police rep. on tv today and he is a wuss. Use Water Cannons, Tasers, tear gas and anything else known to subdue the mindless looters. It worked in Northern Ireland during the "troubles", with the exception of the taser. No it didn't! What worked was when our leaders, T Blair mainly, realised that there was no military solution to Northern Ireland, recognised the atrocity of Bloody Sunday, and started talking to the enemy. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Sacha
writes Society has *never* been equal, never in history, it's just not in the nature of man or the scheme of things. It has never been more unequal than it is today! Executive pay rose by 30%, whilst many public sector workers have had pay cuts in real terms! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , 'Mike'
writes and there are about 3000 men who felt that National Service did them some good and enjoy the camaraderie of http://www.nsrafa.org/%5CDefault.aspx some 50 years later Are you a member? Mike No, and I didn't bother getting the Veteran's Badge. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , stuart noble
writes On 11/08/2011 16:25, Gordon H wrote: In message , Sacha writes We have, also, a modern culture that requires the adults to stop speaking when mini-Fred opens his mouth. In my day - (harumph) - it was "hush, the adults are speaking". I say that now to my grandchildren if they interrupt and their parents say it too. But some young parents have looked at me as if I came from Planet Monster. I well remember those days. When queuing in a shop, children were frequently ignored, and adults served out of turn. If you were caught talking in class or couldn't find your place when it was your turn to read aloud you were sent to wait outside the headmaster's door to receive the stinging cane. We were all scared of the barber, for some inexplicable reason. I find it a joy when I interact with a responsive child in a public place, you can soon spot the suppressed ones who shrink away. We live in more enlightened times now, thank goodness.. Fortunately most of the yobs round here are handicapped by their trousers which require one hand to hold them up :-) I've only ever seen them pulling them down a notch to the prescribed level. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Kay
writes On 10/08/2011 18:41, in article , "Sacha" wrote: Society has *never* been equal, never in history, it's just not in the nature of man or the scheme of things. BUT what has changed now is peoples' sense of entitlement. What has also changed is the level of inequality as measured for example by the proportion of wealth owned by the richest few and the disparity between the highest and lowest remuneration within an organisation. True. We are amateurs at rioting in England, we should follow the example of the French, - they really know how to riot, and they even do it with tractors and heavy trucks! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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